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Rick, this why Ii wish I didn't have double vision so I could read, my
favorite activity
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McGirr" <rickmcgirr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Moral certainty


Thank you, Ray,

My li'l attempt at being a profound ponderer was blown away by your
few words that say it all.

Life does seem just that transitory.

In 'Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy (Douglas Adams), without notice,
the earth is bulldozed to make way for a new, intergalactic
superhighway.

The mystery keeps me going.  Things we don't know.  After you've been
around awhile, it ceases to be about looking pretty, being successful,
comfortable, fame, fortune, power.  Those things we know about.  They
are more transitory than life itself.  It's the unknown that attracts
people of every belief.  And we've only scratched the surface.

Have a good day.
Rick

----- Original Message -----
From: "rayilynlee" <rayilynlee@xxxxxxx>
To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Moral certainty


Rick
I like  the medieval  mystic Meister  Eckhardt's little  story about
life
being like a bird flying into a room from where we don't know and
out the 
window to we don't know where either
Ray
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick McGirr" <rickmcgirr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 6:44 AM
Subject: Re: Moral certainty


> Well...
>
> In the times when John's Revelation was written, man had no idea
that
> we are flying thru space on a tiny speck of dust, on the outer arm
of 
> a spiral galaxy, in a universe that has uncounted millions of
> galaxies.  Further, his prediction of a fiery conflagration as the
> last chapter of earth's history will only come true if enough of
us 
> believe the story.  But if it happens, WWIII on earth will be an
> indiscernable blip on the energy scope for most of the universe.
>
> Science doesn't know much more than John about the end of the
> universe.  We are like travelers who woke up in the middle of a
bus
> trip to find our bus has busted the guardrail and is airborne.
We're
> trying to figure out what happened. But at least we are not
jumping 
> to conclusions.
>
> Is science uncommon?  It's becoming moreso in these days of
religious
> fervor. But it shouldn't be. People don't know it, but we all
use 
> the scientific method several times a day.  But there's a point at
> which people's beliefs get in the way, and the scientific method
is 
> abandoned, in order to avoid the pain of discovery.
>
> I think it is wise to have assumptions, rather than set-in-stone
> beliefs.  I try, humbly, to live each day based on the
preponderance 
> of evidence, to put it clumsily.
>
> That's a little of what I think.  What do you think?
>
> Enjoy!
> Rick McGirr
> Email: rickmcgirr@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ned Gardner" <nedgardner@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:46 PM
> Subject: Re: Moral certainty
>
>
>> Rick:
>>
>> What is scientific about common sense?
>>
>> By definition it is only common.
>>
>> Science and religion do agree that the
>> end of the "she-bang" will be rather warm.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Ned
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Rick McGirr" <rickmcgirr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: Moral certainty
>>
>>
>> > As a matter of fact, I take great comfort in the fact that my
> beliefs
>> > are verifiable, and refutable, through the scientific method
(also
>> > known as common sense). There is nothing truly permanent in
the
>> > universe, including the whole she-"bang" itself. And that is
the 
> true
>> > source of humility.
>> >
>> > Rick
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Ned Gardner" <nedgardner@xxxxxxxx>
>> > To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:59 PM
>> > Subject: Re: Moral certainty
>> >
>> >
>> >> Ray:
>> >>
>> >> Reasonable doubt; moral certainty
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>  When one is "beyond doubt" or an issue has been settled
"beyond 
>> > doubt," it
>> >> means that certainty has been established to such a degree
that 
>> > there can be
>> >> no question whatsoever of the truth. On almost every question,
> the
>> > only
>> >> people who claim to be 100% beyond doubt are gods, egotists,
and 
>> > fanatics.
>> >> Mature people generally allow for the possibility, however
slim, 
>> > that what
>> >> they Know for Certain may be disproved.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> REASONABLE DOUBT -- ".refers to the degree of certainty
required 
> of
>> > a juror
>> >> before he or she can make a legally valid determination of the
> guilt
>> > of a
>> >> criminal defendant.The term doesn't require that the evidence
be 
> so
>> > clear
>> >> that no possibility of error exists; it means that the
evidence 
> must
>> > be so
>> >> conclusive that all reasonable doubts are removed from the
mind 
> of
>> > the
>> >> ordinary person. See also moral certainty."
>> >>
>> >> "MORAL CERTAINTY -- certainty beyond a reasonable doubt; a
>> > conviction based
>> >> on persuasive reasons and excluding doubts that a contrary
>> > conclusion can
>> >> exit. A juror is said to be morally certain of a fact when he
or 
> she
>> > would
>> >> act in reliance upon its truth in matters of greatest
importance 
> to
>> > himself
>> >> or herself."
>> >>
>> >> "REASONABLE MAN (OR PERSON) -- a phrase used to denote a
>> > hypothetical person
>> >> who exercises qualities of attention, knowledge, intelligence
and 
>> > judgment
>> >> that society requires of its members for the protection of
their 
> own
>> >> interests and the interests of others."
>> >>
>> >> Ned
>> >>
>> >> From http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "rayilynlee" <rayilynlee@xxxxxxx>
>> >> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:11 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: Moral certainty
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Moral  certainty is the cause  of  wars,  bigotry,
intolerance 
> and
>> > much
>> >> > suffering.  The person who is  certain  he  is right about
as 
> yet
>> >> > unanswerable  questions is a tremendous obstacle to
progress. 
>> > Education
>> >> > teaches  you  how much  you don't  know and defines the
>> > boundaries of
>> >> > your
>> >> > knowledge.
>> >> >
>> >> > My education tells me a cell is a cell and there is  good
> reason
>> > to call
>> >> > it a cell, not a  person.  I need  to hear some good reasons
> why
>> > a cell
>> >> > is
>> >> > a  person to change my mind, not ooh  don't  name-call.
>> >> >
>> >> > Rayilyn Brown, MA  major History. minor Philosophy, UCLA
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: "Ned Gardner" <nedgardner@xxxxxxxx>
>> >> > To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:25 PM
>> >> > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Don:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority.
The 
>> > more
>> >> >> uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows
precisely 
> what
>> > is
>> >> >> right
>> >> >> and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has
> been
>> > the work
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men
who 
>> > have
>> >> >> whooped
>> >> >> them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man
is 
>> > always
>> >> >> skeptical and tolerant.
>> >> >> -- H. L. Mencken, Minority Report (1956)
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ned
>> >> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> >> From: "Don Mckinley" <flash@xxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:32 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>

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