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JoAnn, Unity I'm told is a softer version of Religious Science. Do you read the Daily Word? My paternal grandmother was Unity, maternal was RS,, mother was an atheist. Ray-- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Ann Coen" <jac580@xxxxxxxx> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: Re: Religious Science/Jo Ann
Ray - I helped to start a Unity Church of Christianity in Corpus Christi, where the minister was a wonderful, understanding lady. However, she kept losing her female attendees. She finally went to them one by one, and found out that her husband was almost pushing himself on them. Needless to say, when she confronted him, he admitted to it, and she divorced him. How sad that someone, male or female, has to take advantage of their position. However, when I came back to Houston, I took turns attending the Unity Church in their Golden Pyramid, and C of R.E. in their very simple meeting place. I still believe in the concepts even though I'm now attending another church where I play the piano each Sunday. Maybe these concepts won't cure anyone, but they make one feel better about it. As I told Ned one day, negativity kills. Best to you. You are receiving many nice compliments lately. Jo Ann
On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:34:46 -0700 rayilynlee <rayilynlee@xxxxxxx> writes:JoAnn
I have attended the C of RS once in 1960's and again in 1990's after I retired from teaching. I studied Science of Mind and think if you really believe it you can cure yourself Problem is I can't cure my PD. The lecherous nature of the husband of Reverend Nancy helped turn me off.
My very good friend from the church, younger than me died of melanoma. She was a very spiritual person and just knew the cancer was gone.
I think if you are well its an interesting religion; however I got the feeling if you were sick you needed to stay away for fear of infecting others with your wrong thoughts. Rev. Nancy never acknowledged or answered my questions in class re cystic fibrosis and Alzheimer's. Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jo Ann Coen" <jac580@xxxxxxxx> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Moral certainty
> Rick - Once I attended a seminar conducted by the Church of Religious > Science, which explained both factors. The speaker said we are traveling > on this spaceship called Earth. I liked his phraseology and have used it > often since then in some of my speeches. This particular church puts out > a monthly magazine called Science of the Mind, and I've subscribed to it > for decades. It's very interesting how Science and Religion work hand in > hand. Seeya. Jo Ann > > > > On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:44:14 -0500 Rick McGirr <rickmcgirr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > writes: >> Well... >> >> In the times when John's Revelation was written, man had no idea >> that >> we are flying thru space on a tiny speck of dust, on the outer arm >> of >> a spiral galaxy, in a universe that has uncounted millions of >> galaxies. Further, his prediction of a fiery conflagration as the >> last chapter of earth's history will only come true if enough of us >> believe the story. But if it happens, WWIII on earth will be an >> indiscernable blip on the energy scope for most of the universe. >> >> Science doesn't know much more than John about the end of the >> universe. We are like travelers who woke up in the middle of a bus >> trip to find our bus has busted the guardrail and is airborne. >> We're >> trying to figure out what happened. But at least we are not jumping >> to conclusions. >> >> Is science uncommon? It's becoming moreso in these days of >> religious >> fervor. But it shouldn't be. People don't know it, but we all use >> the scientific method several times a day. But there's a point at >> which people's beliefs get in the way, and the scientific method is >> abandoned, in order to avoid the pain of discovery. >> >> I think it is wise to have assumptions, rather than set-in-stone >> beliefs. I try, humbly, to live each day based on the preponderance >> of evidence, to put it clumsily. >> >> That's a little of what I think. What do you think? >> >> Enjoy! >> Rick McGirr >> Email: rickmcgirr@xxxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ned Gardner" <nedgardner@xxxxxxxx> >> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2005 5:46 PM >> Subject: Re: Moral certainty >> >> >> > Rick: >> > >> > What is scientific about common sense? >> > >> > By definition it is only common. >> > >> > Science and religion do agree that the >> > end of the "she-bang" will be rather warm. >> > >> > What do you think? >> > >> > Ned >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Rick McGirr" <rickmcgirr@xxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 2:13 PM >> > Subject: Re: Moral certainty >> > >> > >> > > As a matter of fact, I take great comfort in the fact that my >> beliefs >> > > are verifiable, and refutable, through the scientific method >> (also >> > > known as common sense). There is nothing truly permanent in the >> > > universe, including the whole she-"bang" itself. And that is >> the >> true >> > > source of humility. >> > > >> > > Rick >> > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Ned Gardner" <nedgardner@xxxxxxxx> >> > > To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:59 PM >> > > Subject: Re: Moral certainty >> > > >> > > >> > >> Ray: >> > >> >> > >> Reasonable doubt; moral certainty >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> When one is "beyond doubt" or an issue has been settled >> "beyond >> > > doubt," it >> > >> means that certainty has been established to such a degree that >> > > there can be >> > >> no question whatsoever of the truth. On almost every question, >> the >> > > only >> > >> people who claim to be 100% beyond doubt are gods, egotists, >> and >> > > fanatics. >> > >> Mature people generally allow for the possibility, however >> slim, >> > > that what >> > >> they Know for Certain may be disproved. >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> REASONABLE DOUBT -- ".refers to the degree of certainty >> required >> of >> > > a juror >> > >> before he or she can make a legally valid determination of the >> guilt >> > > of a >> > >> criminal defendant.The term doesn't require that the evidence >> be >> so >> > > clear >> > >> that no possibility of error exists; it means that the evidence >> must >> > > be so >> > >> conclusive that all reasonable doubts are removed from the mind >> of >> > > the >> > >> ordinary person. See also moral certainty." >> > >> >> > >> "MORAL CERTAINTY -- certainty beyond a reasonable doubt; a >> > > conviction based >> > >> on persuasive reasons and excluding doubts that a contrary >> > > conclusion can >> > >> exit. A juror is said to be morally certain of a fact when he >> or >> she >> > > would >> > >> act in reliance upon its truth in matters of greatest >> importance >> to >> > > himself >> > >> or herself." >> > >> >> > >> "REASONABLE MAN (OR PERSON) -- a phrase used to denote a >> > > hypothetical person >> > >> who exercises qualities of attention, knowledge, intelligence >> and >> > > judgment >> > >> that society requires of its members for the protection of >> their >> own >> > >> interests and the interests of others." >> > >> >> > >> Ned >> > >> >> > >> From http://www.phrases.org.uk/bulletin_ >> > >> >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> From: "rayilynlee" <rayilynlee@xxxxxxx> >> > >> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >> Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 12:11 PM >> > >> Subject: Re: Moral certainty >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > Moral certainty is the cause of wars, bigotry, >> intolerance >> and >> > > much >> > >> > suffering. The person who is certain he is right about as >> yet >> > >> > unanswerable questions is a tremendous obstacle to progress. >> > > Education >> > >> > teaches you how much you don't know and defines the >> > > boundaries of >> > >> > your >> > >> > knowledge. >> > >> > >> > >> > My education tells me a cell is a cell and there is good >> reason >> > > to call >> > >> > it a cell, not a person. I need to hear some good reasons >> why >> > > a cell >> > >> > is >> > >> > a person to change my mind, not ooh don't name-call. >> > >> > >> > >> > Rayilyn Brown, MA major History. minor Philosophy, UCLA >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> > From: "Ned Gardner" <nedgardner@xxxxxxxx> >> > >> > To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 7:25 PM >> > >> > Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> Don: >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Moral certainty is always a sign of cultural inferiority. >> The >> > > more >> > >> >> uncivilized the man, the surer he is that he knows precisely >> what >> > > is >> > >> >> right >> > >> >> and what is wrong. All human progress, even in morals, has >> been >> > > the work >> > >> >> of >> > >> >> men who have doubted the current moral values, not of men >> who >> > > have >> > >> >> whooped >> > >> >> them up and tried to enforce them. The truly civilized man >> is >> > > always >> > >> >> skeptical and tolerant. >> > >> >> -- H. L. Mencken, Minority Report (1956) >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Ned >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > >> >> From: "Don Mckinley" <flash@xxxxxxxxx> >> > >> >> To: <PARKINSN@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > >> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 2:32 PM >> > >> >> Subject: Re: Souls in limbo >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------- >> - >> > > -- >> > >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> > > mailto:listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> > > mailto:listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> > >> > >> -------------------------------------------------------------------- >> -- >> > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> > >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: >> mailto:listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn >> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > To sign-off Parkinsn send a message to: > mailto:listserv@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > In the body of the message put: signoff parkinsn
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